Hare Krsna, Dear Devotees!

Here we have this new excerpt (starts at 12:18) from a morning walk katha, Srila Gurudev gave in Rio de Janeiro (January, 2014):  http://youtu.be/lQx1kamgEk4?t=12m18s

(Devotee - Is there any possibility to explain tarunyamrita little bit?)
Srila Gurudev - This is a very high level. You cannot understand. Tarunyamrita that is called after action enter in the youth. Yauvanam. Because gopis are thinking about the stage of their youth. That is called bhakta yauvanam, nava yauvanam and purna yauvanam. 

Bhakta yauvanam means just they give up their restlessness (chanchalata). Do you understand? And now Gopis also grow up and all their ladies activities manifested in their heart.

Kavi Karnapur very nicely explain, when the gopis grow up bayasandi they going to enter bhakta yauvanam. Bhakta yauvanam means that the youth is about to manifest. And at that time they became very silent and mostly they cover they head with the veil. They are not speaking too much. Always silent and absorbed with Krishna. Because this is the nature of the young girl.

When they are young girl at that time they realize "I am girl and they are boys". Also their society is divided in two ways. That means that they are superior. Mother, father and relatives told: “Now you are too young, so should not associate with Krishna.”

The Gopis are always absorbed with Krishna. From their childhood they always associate with Krishna. But now their parents told: “Now you are young and you two should be separate”.

Girls play in a way and boys should play in another way. They don´t mix together. That is called the Indian Vedic culture. But gopis are so much attached with Krishna. How is possible to them be separated from Krishna? But they have to follow the rules of the society.

Gopis are thinking: “What will we do now?”. So gopis are completely absorbed with Krishna. Because they have so much anurag. Anurag means deep attachment. That is the first time that it is called purvaraga.

Srila Sukadeva Goswamipad spoke many Hari-kathas from first Canto to tenth Canto. Even in the tenth Canto, Sukadeva Goswamipad told us many Krishna's sweet pastimes. But now Sukadeva Goswamipad is speaking about gopis purvarag. This means that Venu-Gita is coming. Purvarag means Venu-Gita. It means that gopis, now, they just enter their bhakta jauvanam.

So I also explained; bhakta jauvanam manifest their youth. Because their bodies, culture, everything, also changes. Their chest, thigh, feet, legs, mouth, everything changes. When girl grow up and coming in the stage of bhakta jauvanam, at that time she realizes: “I am girl. I have to separate from this or that way”.

In the same way, gopis also realize themselves. Here society also gives instruction do this or that. But gopis cannot tolerate separation with Krishna. Because Sukadeva Goswamipad in Srimad Bhagavatam now explains how the gopis feels separation from Krishna. Before this, Sukadeva Goswamipad didn´t utter any names of gopis. No gopi katha is there.

In Venu-Gita, at that time Sukadeva Goswamipad  suddenly explains gopis purvarag katha. Purvaraga means how to feeling the separation. Because meeting and separation are the two things of our prema, as like two sides of one coin. One is meeting and another is called separation.

So now Sukadeva Goswamipad explains the separation from Krishna. How are the gopis feeling separation from Krishna. This is coming.

So viraha (separation) coming in four ways: purvarag, mana, pravasa and prema vaichita. So here also the first is purvarag. Venu-Gita is coming. At that time, gopis cannot go out from their house. They have to stay in their house. But always they remember Krishna. And they glorifies Krishna's flute also when Krishna use to go to graze the cows and gopis.

So now coming in this way. Love is one thing that you cannot discuss. Material love. Transcendental love is so much high level. They cannot tolerate. And so much transcendental lust coming, not material lust. When transcendental lust is coming they cannot tolerate. They have to meet with Krishna. But how they will meet with Krishna now?

So taruna is coming in this way, gopis they are thinking how to meet with Krishna. And at that time they also discuss to each other about Krishna's glorification and Krishna's rupa madhuri, lila madhuri, prema madhuri and venu madhuri. Venu-Gita means is Krishna's four sweetness, madhurya, glorification in there. But gopis are very clever. They always explain everything indirectly. Within their heart things are not discuss directly.

Here also Sukadeva Goswamipad explain one thing: in this material world, lover and beloved, generally is the male person beloved who express his sentiments from his heart. Do you understand? Do you understand or not? The male person, in this material world, (is the one who) express his heart. The female is always very silent. They cannot express their heart. This is the nature of this material world. But in the transcendental world, transcendental love is completely opposite.

In transcendental world, lover-she express her sentiments. But how she explains her sentiments? Indirectly. Venu-Gita means this things.

Venu-Gita means that they glorified Krishna and express their heart indirectly.

Srila Vishvanath Chakravartipad gives an example: as like one very greedy person who eats rasagula. Then one day he come his friend's house. His friend knows - “Oh! My friend is very eager to eat rasagula”, but friends will not ask – “Oh bring rasagula for me”. But the friend knows – “My friend likes rasagula!”, so he brought some rasagula from market. Then his friend asked “Hey, why did you bring rasagula?”. He knows everything but he said: “Why did you bring rasagula?”, and the friend answered: “Don´t you know, today is a very super excellent auspicious day! Today, maybe, is my thakurji´s birthday! So, for this regard, I brought rasagula for my thakurji…” The friend does not say: “I brought this rasagula for you”. Otherwise the rasagula will be not manifest.

Rasa, rasa means prema, mellows that are completely hidden. If I tell you “I love you”, this is not real love. What love is? It is hidden. Lover will not say “I love you”.

Sometimes the Gopis use this word “I love Krishna” when they coming in an ecstatic mood. At that time only. Mainly they can say “we don't love Him”. So, now, gopis are thinking how to explain their heart.

So in Venu-Gita everything is gopis sentiments, bhava, and explained in this way. Indirectly. They are saying – “O, look how the river has love and affection for Krishna!...” Because river is so much intoxicated with Krishna's sound of the flute, Govinda-venu-dhari. Then the water has coming from up to down but water is not going to down. It is also making whirlpools.

So gopis, in this way, actually express their own sentiments, bhava. How much love and affection they have!

“Nadyas tada tad upadharya mukunda-gitam”, this sloka is very clearly explained in this way. Actually in this verse, gopis express their own sentiments, how they have transcendental lust.

Always remember that gopis´ lust is transcendental lust and that transcendental lust is called perfect love. Prema. “Premaiva gopa-ramanam”.

Gopis´ love is actually called transcendental lust. Not material lust. So now gopis coming in after bayasandi to bhakta jauvanam. Then they are thinking what will they do now. So they express it in their heart with their girl friends. That’s called Venu-Gita, purvaraga.

So tarunamrita means this: when tarun (means youth) coming, how to express their sentiments, bhava. Then in different ways they expressing, in Ujjvala-nilamani, Bhakti rasamrita sindhu and also others granthas of Rupa Goswamipad.

They have so much love and affection with Krishna. Many things that I cannot to tell you now. Then maybe your material lust will come. Then coming lavanamrita mood that is called purna jauvanam. That is also a very high level. How gopis are also feeling separation with Krishna. That is called Srimati Radhika's divya-unmada transcendental madness coming. That is called Bhramara-Gita is coming. The song of the bumble bees.

(Devotee - Which one is Gopi-Gita?)

Srila Gurudev – “Gopi-gita is in the beginning of Tarunamritam. Then Lavanammritam. These are very high level things.

(Devotee - Which one is the topmost?)

Srila Gurudev – “Topmost is called Lavanammritam. Bhramara-Gita. Lavana means delightfulness. Effulgence coming. "Mukta phaleshu." As like some delight coming from mukta. Mukta means the pearls. In the same way gopis mood is in this way. Because they are coming in purna jauvanam.

As like in the june-july months in India, that is called the month of bhadra. At that time, the river is full of water and big, big waves at that time. So in the same way, gopis purna jauvanam coming. Purna jauvanam means “full youthfulness” coming. Do you understand? When full youthfulness has coming, at that time transcendental lust is also coming. Very difficult to control. I cannot tell you. This is very high level. At that time, Krishna is playing His flute.

So saying “nisamya gitam tad anangavardhanam gopa-vraja-striyah”, when Krishna plays the flute, the gopis, at that time, come out. Sukadeva Goswami explains – “nisamya gitam tad anangavardhanam”. "Ananga" means transcendental lust.

In our mantra Kama gayatri, “ananga” means transcendental lust. Kamadev. When Krishna plays the flute, gopis´ transcendental lust, that is called prema, mainfests. They cannot tolerate themselves. All the Gopis run away from their house. So saying “nisamya gitam tad anangavardhanam gopa-vraja-striyah” means that they are running very quick towards Krishna.

All gopis are thinking “Krishna is calling only to me”. All gopis are running, side by side, but they are so much intoxicated with transcendental lust that they did not see each other. Because lust is very dangerous.

Even this material lust is very dangerous. Lusty people cannot tolerate their lust. They know everything – “Oh, if I do this, the society will give me heavy punishment, government will put me in the jail…” But they still they do it. Why? Because lust is very dangerous.

What to say about transcendental lust, “aprakrita prema?" Aprakrita kama. This is not so easy. Because especially the sound of the flute, Govinda-venu-dhani. So, saying “nisamya gitam tad anangavardhanam”, “tad” means gopis, “ananga” means transcendental lust increased. Because venu-dhana is very powerful. Then gopis are also dragged. They gave up also the rules and regulation of the society. Everything. Because transcendental lust is coming. Because Govinda is calling them.

Then, after, Sukadeva Goswamipad explains – “When Krishna went from Vrindavan to Mathura then gopis felt high level separation”. High level separation. That is called Bharmara-Gita, it is coming (Srimati Radhika's divya-unmada). Read Jaiva Dharma, than you will understand.

(Devotee - Jaiva Dharma explains that udipanam madhura rasa is murali. What is the difference between venu and murali. Now you are speaking about venu…)

Srila Gurudev – “Vamsi, murali and venu. Three flutes are there. Actually, vamsi is called a male person. Murali is called female. They are the same categories. And they are coming from same caste. Vamsi is coming from the bamboo tree. Murali also the same thing but coming from different kind of bamboo tree. But they are not qualified.

So gopis criticize vamsi, murali and venu. Venu is also masculine gender. Venu and vamsi are masculine gender. Murali is female gender, murali is in the same line of vamsi.

They are not qualified because without parakiya bhava no one can taste the sweet mellows from the lotus lips of Krishna. They have no this types of mood. So for this regard gopis also criticize venu.

Jaiva Dharma very nicely explains how you recognize this is murali, this is vamsi. According to their different holes there. This is the process also.

That means that different kinds of their sentiments bhava is there. Because in the realm of love, premaraja, everything has a different bhav, mood. And also some vamsi made by different kinds of jewels (metals). And different-different type tune coming also. Sometime gopis also, very humbly, tell – “O Vamsi, O Murali, you are very fortunate”! Sometimes they criticize them – “You are not fortunate... How is possible to Venu drink the sweet nectar from the lotus lips of our beloved Govinda?” Many things also...”

* (Special thanks to Srimati Govinda Didi - Brazil - for made it possible with the questions and by reviewing it, and to Krsnananda Prabhu - Armenia - for transcribe it so well) *